DPB Sparks Withington Co - Jackson - Michigan. Very Solid condition. I would say the paintwork on your helmet is original. (Salonika) Territorial Force Nursing Service who died 01/03/1918 KNOWLE (SS. Category. $150-300 Information & Special Terms Internet Premium : 20% Participation Requirements: Valid Credit Card required for bidding approval Payment Options: Visa, MasterCard, Discover, American Express, Check, Money Order, Wire Transfer, and Cash Visa MasterCard Discover American Express Payment Instructions . . The story, for many years I wanted a bog standard WW2 Cdn pattern helmet for my collection, mainly a display piece. I always liked the Brodie Helmet, sure as protective as other helmets of the era but a neat helmet. //-->, By With New Vegas, I luckily was able to use the NCR Trooper Helmet, but there is no helmet like that in this game. Royal Horse Artillery who died 16/03/1917 VARENNES MILITARY CEMETERY France ' Follow on Instagram, The British Mark I Brodie & the U.S. P17, know the difference, M42 winter camo. Unlike the ubiquitous Stahlhelm which had been developed by the Germans around the same time the Brodie did not have a nape piece extending further down at the back to protect the neck, however, it did offer greater all round protection from shrapnel descending down into the trenches. The color of paint used by both the British and American manufactures do show some similarity. Frankston RSL Sub Branch Munition, German 75 mm. He worked at the Houses of Parliament (I cant quite remember what position he held but I will ask my step father tomorrow) and he was good friends with Sir Winston Churchill and attended various dinners with him, one of which we have the original letter and menu for. lol. The development of a replacement model, the Mark II, and its widespread distribution from 1940 onwards meant that the evacuation from Dunkirk was one of the last military campaigns during which the original Brodie was worn extensively by British troops. Looks like an original Mk2 shell, obviously repainted. Here is an image ( sorry for bad quality) There are 3 letters painted on the front i think it could be either one of these combinations: See Details. Seaforth Highlanders who died 20/03/1919 BEIRUT WAR CEMETERY Lebanese Republic ' It was made of mild steel originally, but this was quickly dispensed with and a harder type of steel was introduced alloyed with manganese, a mixture known as Hadfield Steel after its developer, the English metallurgist, Sir Robert Hadfield. Hi J.H.E. dailyinfo[28]=' 19673 Leading Aircraftman Samuel Ambrose TICKNER Meritorious Service Medal No. Our philosophy is simple, we want to help people to own a piece of World War II history. FOR SALE! Brodie Helmet ID? The steel for the M1917 helmets was rolled by the American Sheet and Tin Plate Co and were stamped with a Heat or Lot code, The helmet liners were made by 10 Shoe Manufacturing Company's, the shells and liners would be delivered to the. The original and very distinctive steel helmet adopted by Great Britain was designed and patented in 1915 by its inventor, John L Brodie. Northamptonshire Regiment who died 14/03/1915 LE TOURET MEMORIAL France ' Me and a mate found. dailyinfo[17]=' PLY/3566 Private Samuel ROBINSON H.M.S. However, the M1 sits further back on the head than the Brodie, thus providing greater protection to the neck. Commonly referred to as the "Kelly" between 1932 and 1936 the M1917 and the British MK1 helmets in America. We live day by day, and I always say: yesterday is history, today's reality, and tomorrow's a dream.' dailyinfo[1]=' Staff Nurse Edith Mary CAMMACK Associate of the Royal Red Cross, 2nd Class 4th Southern Gen. Hos. loop/lug was first used on the British MKI* and MKII helmets. The helmet has been varnished. WWII British Army MKII Brodie Helmet and Liner Restoration Service RESTORATION SERVICE ONLY. dailyinfo[11]=' Captain Charles Edmund WOOD Mentioned in Despatches Adjt. (Jeff McIntosh/The Canadian Press via AP) - 2NHRH10 from Alamy's library of millions of high resolution stock photos, illustrations and vectors. It it worth noting that while British servicemen were never issued with American helmets, American service men were issued British helmets. in the late 1930s - 1941 and the M1 helmet and liner was phased in 1941 - 1942. else { document.write(fontstart+"No major events today"+fontend); } Heavily distressed #re, Specters in the Snow, the story of Finlands Skeleton Helmet, Sinister in Black, the Pre-War Helmet of the SS, The German helmet of the Normandy Campaign, The Tsars French Helmet, the Imperial Russian Adrian, Visiting the Baltic with Alexander & Sons, Understanding WWII German helmet insignia, Whats inside, German helmet liners 1920-1940, Geronimos helmet, a short history of the U.S. M2, A Short History of the German Steel Helmet of the Great War. It's a little difficult to provide much information from just a picture. DPH var fontend = '' Thanks for the info lads. Inland = Inland Manufacturing Co ( General Motors ) - Ohio. The codeusuallystarts with a Z and is followedby a series of numbers. I bought a M1 Vietnam era helmet through mail order surplus years ago and turns out they grabbed me a very collectable M1C paratrooper helmet. Not sure why there's a hole in the rim. The unpainted shell was dipped onto a vat of olive paint. Frank Harrison EDINGER Army Chaplains Department who died 26/02/1918 HOLLYBROOK MEMORIAL, SOUTHAMPTON United Kingdom ' Good to see that copper rivetswere used. The doughnut was added for the wearers comfort. what I can tell you is that, it appears to be from the WW2 period with the cropped helmet lugs, the markings I've not seen. He did work there before the war but we are not sure if he held that position pre-war. The helmets I have seen wereUSM1 helmets, however they might have worn the Brodie pattern too earlier on. dailyinfo[16]=' 22659 Serjeant George SNELL Military Medal "T" Bty. dailyinfo[10]=' 14780 Member Ida Styles HUGHES (Oxford) Womens Royal Air Force who died 10/03/1919 OXFORD (ROSE HILL) CEMETERY United Kingdom ' This is what so many collectors need to restore an original British WW2 or American WWI Dough Boy helmet to wearable or even presentable condition. Email: Support@WW2Helmets.Com Phone: (208) 656-3440. dailyinfo[14]=' 16511 Private Albert COLEMAN "D" Coy. The Brodie helmet is a steel combat helmet designed and patented in London in 1915 by Latvian inventor John Leopold Brodie (Latvian: Leopolds Janno Braude).A modified form of it became the Helmet, Steel, Mark I in Britain and the M1917 Helmet in the US. It's definitely a British Mk I helmet. dailyinfo[22]=' 25368 Quartermaster Serjeant Leonard Henry CADE Meritorious Service Medal 12th Coy. An update on my helmet: a little light sanding and I was able to find the heat stamp, though this has only raised more questionsthe stamp is XHF. He was on guard duties mostly on the rooftops of parliament apparently with Churchill quite a lot. At the outbreak of WWII, the U.S. military . The Brodie helmet, called Helmet, steel, Mark I helmet in Britain and the M1917 Helmet in the U.S., was a steel combat helmet designed and patented in 1915 by the Briton John L. Brodie. Royal Welsh Fusiliers who died 11/03/1915 FAUQUISSART MILITARY CEMETERY, LAVENTIE France ' Your link has been automatically embedded. The bail holder is secured to the helmets skirt with a steel harness rivet. Pasted as rich text. I need help identifying some markings on the second world war brodie. I'm sorry I could not find a post 1916 stamp (see below for two examples of post Aug 1916 stamps. Helmets such as this did not leave the factory this way. Powered by Invision Community, US WW1 and WW2 Brodie Helmets and Maker Stamps. Your link has been automatically embedded. Most American helmets lack manufacture marks. Antique World War II helmet stamped and dated 1942 Canadian Army Brodie helmet made by General Steel Wares of Toronto shopatlanticcanada (133) $191.29 Vintage WWII Army Helmet 1940s Canadian Brodie MKII WyrembelskisVintage (1,643) $165.00 vintage army metal doughboy helmet IronCharlie (31) $345.00 FREE shipping dailyinfo[31]=' 420628 Sapper William Bayne YOUNG 63rd Field Coy. In the case of the British Mark I there is typically a letter followed by a slash followed by another letter. "Foyle." dailyinfo[3]=' 45 Gunner HAZURA SINGH 31st Mountain Battery Indian Mountain Artillery who died 03/03/1920 TEHRAN MEMORIAL Iranm ' What are the chances that the Big Red One emblem is original? This website uses cookies for functionality, analytics and advertising purposes as described in our, "I pressed forward with the others to watch the United States physically entering the War, so god-like, so magnificent, so splendidly unimpaired in comparison with the tired nerve-racked men of the British Army. dailyinfo[18]=' 6422 Private Charlie GILBERT 4th Coy. dailyinfo[2]=' 8020 Serjeant Charles POOLE "C" Coy. This was particularly the case when it came to trench warfare where shrapnel and debris rained down on soldiers heads from above. Simultaneously, though, the administration of Woodrow Wilson ordered the production of an American-made helmet. Royal Horse Artillery who died 16/03/1917 VARENNES MILITARY CEMETERY France ' NPB. Alexander & Sons It was also in 1916 that the British began supplying large numbers of Brodie helmets to their allies. The ring didnt stay gone long and was brought back in 1917 no doubt to the joy of the average Tommy. This helmet was called The Helmet, Steel, Mark I but is also sometimes referred to as the Brodie steel helmet or the Brodie Mark I helmet. The helmet was rimless and was painted a smooth dark-green color. In WW1 Allies: Great Britain, France, USA, etc 1914 - 1918, In Polish Armed Forces - Second Republic (Siy Zbrojne II Rzeczypospolitej Polskiej) 1918-1939, blue brodie helmet(or not) identification, Advice on purchasing a British Military MKII Helmet. The helmet istself is a Mk.1* but i have looked and cannot find any manufacturer stamps on either the helmet or liner/strap. America ended up purchasing roughly 400,000 Brodie helmets from the British and produced over 2,700,000 M1917 helmets by the war's end. Category:Brodie helmets. dailyinfo[10]=' 14780 Member Ida Styles HUGHES (Oxford) Womens Royal Air Force who died 10/03/1919 OXFORD (ROSE HILL) CEMETERY United Kingdom ' Available on our website now //-->, By Thus, in one guise or another it shaped the design of military helmets all over the world for much of the twentieth century. Nearly three million of these M1917 helmets were produced by the time that the war ended in November 1918, clearly indicating the importance of an effective military helmet for the American armed forces going forward. Will be adding helmets to the page soon, alexanderandsons if (year < 1000) year+=1900 If solid rivets, its US. After many experiments, Brodie came to the conclusion that a relatively simple form of helmet would offer reasonable protection, be serviceable and cheap to produce in large numbers. MILITARIA COLLECTING Want to read more? Next to this code there are a series of numbers. Those U.S. forces that worked with the French Army wore the Adrian Helmet. The helmet was basically an inverted bowl stamped out of a single piece of manganese alloy, which was made up of 13 percent manganese and was .036" thick. Worcestershire Regiment who died 23/02/1915 LOKER CHURCHYARD Belgium ' if (dailyinfo[daym] != "") { document.write(fontstart+dailyinfo[daym]+fontend) } Worcestershire Regiment who died 23/02/1915 LOKER CHURCHYARD Belgium ' The liner should be afixed in the helmet using a single copper rivet that is peened. Related Weapons & Armor. The Brodie helmet, called Helmet, steel, Mark I helmet in Britain and the M1917 Helmet in the U.S., was a steel combat helmet designed and patented in 1915 by the Briton John L. Brodie. Failing this, simply search on this forum under Brodie and you should find a wealth of information etc. WW1 BRITISH BRODIE Helmet SOMME relic - 60.00. . HEAT STAMP 626A. Display as a link instead, The letter which follows the slash representsthe company who rolled the steel provide for the helmet. The asbestos pad is quite safe it is only the thickness of thick paper, my only doubt is the chin strap mounts they are, riveted the British used split pins. The American shell is heavier. Could somebody post a beginner's guide to what exactly a Brodie helmet is, if there was any other type of British helmet in WWI, and how they differed from WW2? Northamptonshire Regiment who died 14/03/1915 LE TOURET MEMORIAL France ' A British Brodie 'Tommy' steel helmet with net and leather lining. "We Cannot Always Buy What We Want, But We Buy What We Can". Heres a photo of a little of the remaining paint, it seems dark grey/green to me, and a photo of the inside. if (month<10) month="0"+month of a WW1 helmet this normally means it's milder steel used and not for combat use. John Brodie designed the 'tin helmet' as worn in WW1, hence its name. Everything for sale on WW2Helmets.com is completely legal to own, trade, sell and transport within the United States of America. The main part of the helmet was the steel shell or cap which was produced from non-magnetic Hadfield Steel, a steel and manganese alloy similar to that which the British had begun to employ to make the Brodie helmet as early as 1916. If so I know the US Navy used red painted helmets on their ships fordamage control teams. 6 Reserve Lorry Park Royal Air Force who died 28/02/1919 BELGRADE CEMETERY Belgium '